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Oh, I adore John Price, who is a depth psychotherapist and the host of the podcast The Sacred Speaks. We share many interests—and some podcast guests. John also leads The Center for Healing Arts & Sciences with his wife.

John is someone I could talk to for hours. No, days. But when we sat down some time ago in October, I was particularly curious to talk to him about his work with men. John brings men together into community in very powerful ways that allow for deep understanding and intimacy.

In this conversation, we talk about his approach to establishing intimacy, what he makes of the current cultural crisis involving boys and men, and why he asks men about their inner lives as opposed to their feelings. And we explore what it could look like if we had rites of passage that honored the masculine and the feminine within each of us, in truly unique ways.

John also shares his working definition of spirituality, which is quite beautiful.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:

JOHN:

What I was thinking about today, my thought about you and I is that there's a real similar interest, my judgment or projection onto you is that we have very kind of similar passions and drives, and so I thought, well, it's going to be a fun conversation. We kind of like to swim the same pool.

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