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Thomas Hübl is back for the third part of a series we’ve decided to undertake. If you missed part one and two, I’d recommend giving them a listen, though there is no test, and you’ll be able to stick with us. Thomas is one of my favorite healers and teachers to talk to because he has an incredible presence—the ability to channel and express simultaneously. He makes perceptible what I think many of us feel as the truth…but haven’t been able to articulate. In today’s episode, we went deeper into our exploration of shadow—and when shadow becomes evil. Thomas explained what this “it” is—and why we’re collective shareholders of this entity. We talked about conspiracy theories, the climate crisis, and what we might all be called to do right now—at this moment in time—to help our world process the collection of sediment that we would love to disown. We planned to talk about energy entities, exorcisms, and capital E Evil today, but we ran out of time. So Thomas will be back for a part four, and likely a part five and six.

Part One on Pulling the Thread: “Finding Shadow in the Body”

Part Two on Pulling the Thread: “Staying with Discomfort”

On Pulling the Thread: “Feeling into the Collective Presence”

On Pulling the Thread: “Processing Our Collective Past”

Thomas’s Podcast, Point of Relation

Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World

Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds

Thomas Hübl’s Website

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ELISE:

I know we're talking about evil and its various substrates and is it shadow? Is it condensed shadow? What is it? Is it disembodied? Is this real? And before we started, I was just saying to you that I've read a fair amount on the topic. It's very difficult to find anyone who really wants to talk about it. I don't know if that's been your experience.