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You’ve likely seen Rutger Bregman on a late show or on Instagram, or watched his amazing viral clip from Davos, which we talk about today and which I’ll share in the show notes in case you missed it.

Rutger is a Dutch historian and bestselling author of several books, including his latest, Moral Ambition: Stop Wasting Your Talent and Start Making a Difference. He’s a particularly brilliant problem-solver, and it doesn’t hurt that he has a fun sense of humor.

Today, Rutger shares more of his model for living a more meaningful life. It’s not about being an idealist, or even following, quote unquote, “your passions.” It is, in many ways, about effectively solving the problems in our lives using the talents we already have.

Rutger illustrates this with some pretty fascinating real-life stories that floored me.

MORE FROM RUTGER BREGMAN:

Rutger Bregman at Davos

Rutger’s Website

Follow Rutger on Instagram

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