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The brilliant Jenny Odell is the now two-time New York Times Bestselling author. In 2019, she came out with How to Do Nothing, a treatise on the attention economy. Her book landed right before COVID, offering wise and trenchant insight into what happened to all. This book captured my heart. And her follow-up—Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock continues the conversation, exploring the way we use our hours, whose hours count more, and what this looks like in the context of our ancient universe where time has a different measure.
MORE FROM JENNY ODELL:
The Bureau of Suspended Objects
Jenny Odell’s Website
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