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It is not without a dose of irony that professor Kate Bowler—a prolific historian and author about the Prosperity Gospel—was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at the age of 35. After all, her work had revolved around parsing a spiritual point-of-view that if you were a good person, a good Christian, good things would invariably happen…like wealth and health. From her diagnosis, she wrote a bestselling book: Everything Happens for a Reason—and Other Lies I’ve Loved and added an entirely new dimension to her scholarship at Duke. She’s now in remission and the host of the Everything Happens podcast, and has written several more bestsellers, including books of devotionals like The Lives We Actually Have and Good Enough. In today’s conversation, we covered a lot of ground—the inherent goodness of people, when we rise to the occasion, and whether evil as an absolute exists.
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TRANSCRIPT:
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ELISE LOEHNEN: The only time that I've physically been with you, as you might recall, I came to Duke to interview you in person, and it was right at the precipice of Covid because when I flew down there, it was obviously in the air and it was a cause for concern, but I remember seeing you and being like, should I, are we like doing something dangerous?