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Heidi Rose Robbins is a longtime and gifted astrologer. While I’m certainly not a pro, I have come to love Heidi’s daily moon notes on Instagram. And I’m grateful that my last podcast conversation of the year is with her.

Heidi starts us off with an astrological snapshot of this moment in time. We go on a few tangents, of course, and Heidi delves a bit into Trump’s chart. Looking ahead into the new year, Heidi breaks down the five major outer planets that are shifting into new signs—and what these changes mean for all of us. She explains why her friend, an astrological historian, is calling this “the era of plot twists.”

On an individual level, Heidi shares an invitation to give the gift of your rising sign now. And we spend the last 10 minutes or so of our conversation going through a mini debrief of every sign, and the reasons why each one can get a bad rap from time to time.

After Heidi departs, I’ll share some more final thoughts before we slip into the new year.

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HEIDI:

Hi, Elise.

ELISE:

Hi.

HEIDI:

Nice to see you.

ELISE:

I'm so happy to see you. I'm having a day where I'm feeling really tender and so it's nice to see you.