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Dr. Kendi is a world-renowned historian and scholar, and the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller How to Be an Antiracist. He is the Carter G. Woodson Endowed Chair in History at Howard University. His new book is called Chain of Ideas: The Origins of Our Authoritarian Age. It is incredibly insightful and illuminating in terms of mapping how we got to where we are. And I think what Dr. Kendi shares in our conversation today is also quite helpful in terms of pointing us in a potential direction out of this mess.

I’m so glad that I got on his card for this interview, and very excited to share it with you now…

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