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Spiritual teacher, Thomas Hübl, is back for the second part of a series we’ve decided to undertake. If you missed part one, I’d recommend giving it a listen—it ran last week—though there is no test! You can pick up with this episode and you won’t be lost. Thomas is one of my favorite thought partners because of his presence—he can build and hold an incredible amount of space, which I hope is perceptible to all of you who are tuning in from afar. I can feel it through the computer. In today’s episode, we went deeper into our conversation about finding “bad” feelings in our bodies, sitting with discomfort, and learning how to move these sensations up and out. We talked about our collective responsibility to build this capacity—particularly if we’re not deep and directly in suffering ourselves—and why these deposits of collective trauma stick around for so long. On this final point—the presence of dark and dense entities that you can sometimes sense or feel, particularly in highly traumatized parts of the globe—we’re going to devote an entire episode. So stay tuned for Part Three, coming later this fall.

MORE FROM THOMAS HÜBL:

Part One on Pulling the Thread: “Finding Shadow in the Body

On Pulling the Thread:Feeling into the Collective Presence

On Pulling the Thread: “Processing Our Collective Past

Thomas’s Podcast, Point of Relation

Thomas Hübl’s Website

Follow Thomas on Instagram

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:

THOMAS: So welcome to the point of relation. My name is Thomas Hubel and I'm very excited to be here again with Elise Loehnen. Elise, welcome.

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