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You might recognize Sharon McMahon’s voice from her award-winning podcast, “Here’s Where It Gets Interesting.” And you might recognize her face from Instagram where she is affectionately known as America's government teacher. You can find her at SharonSaysSo. It's thrilling to see a longtime high school government and law teacher become an Instagram celebrity. She has over a million followers. People love McMahon, including me for her non-partisan fact-based information. She really cuts through the clutter. Today we're talking about her new number one New York Times bestselling book, The Small and the Mighty: Twelve Unsung Americans Who Changed the Course of History, from the Founding to the Civil Rights Movement . And we also talk deeply about what it takes to raise consciousness in general, why it's a flawed idea to re-litigate history from the consciousness of today and where that's worth doing and where that woefully misfires. And we also spend a lot of time talking about what it is to work with the enemy to create positive change. I loved this conversation.

The Small and the Mighty: Twelve Unsung Americans Who Changed the Course of History, from the Founding to the Civil Rights Movement

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Congrats on everything. It's amazing to see a history book like yours on the top of the New York Times bestseller list.